Katt Williams goes after EVERYONE in a recent interview on Club Shay Shay. The actor/comedian reveals shocking secrets about Kevin Hart, Steve Harvey, Cedric the Entertainer and many more. But what do his body language and word choice reveal and which celebrity is probably LYING to their audience? Find out now!

No one in Hollywood has a memory of going to a sold out Kevin Hart show.

He already had his deals when he got here.

At least one of these four people is straight up lying to their audience, and I’m about to tell you which one it is.

What’s going on everyone?

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My name is Spidey and I use my degree in sociology and psychology, my certifications in criminal interrogation and Body Language analysis and over 10 years experience as an award-winning Mentalist to teach people behavioral analysis and practical psychology on stages and television shows all over the world.

This week we are covering one of the most most requested topics in the history of the channel

So just last week, actor and comedian Cat Williams did an interview on the club Shay Youtube channel and it instantly went viral within days that had tens of millions of views and everyone on the internet was talking about it.

The reason the interview got that much attention is because Cat made some really shocking claims about some of the top celebrities in the world, including Kevin Hart, Steve Harvey, Cedric, the Entertainer and many, many more.

Shortly after the interview aired some of the individuals that he called out publicly.

Resp responded to some of the things he said, and in this video we’re looking at all of it.

We’re looking at body language, facial expressions, word choice of all the players involved to figure out what’s going on and why I personally believe that one of these four individuals is flat out being deceptive to Their audience.

Now this video is going to be a little bit different from my other analysis videos, because usually we focus a lot on body language and although there’s some good body language here and we’re going to talk about it, a lot of the important stuff here is the word choice.

A lot of these people are comedians.

They use their words very effectively and I think we’re getting a lot of hints in the way they’re choosing to communicate certain messages.

The other thing is, besides my work as a Behavioral Analyst, I’ll be bringing a lot of my experience as a live performer into this analysis, because there’s a lot of stuff he’s talking about.

That involves the dynamic between live stage performers, and I’ve been a twing performer for the past 15 years of my life.

I have a lot of friends who have worked with some of the individuals he’s talking about, and I myself have shared Sh to stage with Steve Harvey and I’ve seen him work a crowd, and I’ll be bringing all that experience into some of the stuff that we’re talking about here.

Why Did He Say That?

That being said, let’s Dive

Right In.

He understands the method that goes into making kanyak right well.

As a comedian, you get free drinks at the club, so all comedians either turn out to be connoisseurs like myself, or straight up and down alcoholics like 60% of Hollywood, and the reason I had to come is because youve made a safe place for the truth to be told.

Okay.

So before we get to the controversial clips and we see what’s what, I wanted to start with a couple of clips from the beginning of the interview, where he’s getting comfortable with Shannon, the host, and immediately we’re seeing cat’s capacity with words and with his audience.

Let’s really quickly start with some body language.

You’ll notice right in the beginning, when he’s talking about the whiskey, we see the right hand rubbing his right knee.

Now this is something something we call adapters, pacifiers or Self- soothing gestures.

Anytime you see someone doing something that looks like a massage type gesture.

This is something that the research has found we do in moments of stress to calm ourselves down.

Now, in the beginning of the interview, he’s doing it a little bit with the knee like this.

We see him adjusting the hat, but as the interview progresses, these pacifiers Spike like crazy by the end of the interview.

It’s constant, both hands are rubbing on the legs.

He’s constantly adjusting the Hat.

It doesn’t seem like any specific topic makes this start

And therefore we can’t pay too much attention to it because at some point it just becomes constant.

It becomes part of his Baseline.

So we can kind of look at why the whole interview may have become stressful for him as a whole.

But we can’t look at specific things because it’s happening all the time.

But let’s talk about his very effective use of language.

So right in the beginning Shannon says that cat really knows his cont and Cad immediately responds that because he’s a comedian who’s performed in bars, you either become a connaisseur or an alcoholic, like 60% of Hollywood.

What he’s doing there is in this quick, little funny moment he’s establishing two things early on in the interview.

The first one is that he has a lot of experience as a comic because he’s saying that he’s a Kac connoisseur, not because he studied cognac, but because he spent so much time in venues where there are bars that he evitably became a connoisseur.

This is going to be a constant theme in this interview.

He’s very proud of the fact that he put in the grind, he put in the work and he never took the easy way out, and he’s already starting right in the beginning to plant that seed.

The second thing he’s establishing very early on is a mission statement.

He is saying that he is here to out some of what’s going on in Hollywood because he separates himself from the 60% of Hollywood that just become alcoholics.

And we even see this throwaway gesture with his hand as he’s saying that they’re separate from me, Hollywood, these alcoholics.

They’re separate from me.

But one of the more powerful things he does psychologically is right at the end of those clips, when he says: the reason I’m here is that you’ve created a safe space for the truth to be told.

So this has a lot of layers.

First, once again, it’s a mission statement.

He’s saying I’m here to tell the truth.

But second, this is something that in Psychology we call labeling or attribution, and there’s a lot of research on it.

Basically, what it means is if you tell someone that they’ve already done something, they behave more consistently with that attribution or label.

So in this case he’s not saying: I’m here to tell the truth, regardless of anything he’s saying.

You’ve created a space of Truth telling.

That’s what you did.

So now the host goes: Yeah, I’ve done that.

I’ve made this a truth-telling space.

Therefore, please, go ahead and tell the truth.

That’s what I’ve done.

So right in the beginning of the interview.

We have a mission statement.

We have him establishing his experience as a performer.

We have him getting the host on his side and opening up the floor to reveal some truths.

Katt vs Cedric: Who is Lying?

So now we’re going to dive right into some of the things that he said about these celebrities that made headlines, starting with Cedric, the Entertainer.

I had Cedric on here and I asked him about the jok dealing

And he said the timeline doesn’t add up correct to your to to that point you say right.

So he thought that I was just a non-name comedian and that he could take this joke and nobody would know.

The issue was that I had already done this particular joke on Bet’s Comic View twice.

Right?

Uh, Mark Curry had already helped me work on this joke because I thought it was good, cuz I was getting a standing ovation on it.

So this is not just a random joke.

This is my very best joke and it’s my last joke

And it’s my closing joke.

Okay, 1998, I’m doing this joke.

It’s on Comic View.

Cedric comes to The Comedy Store.

He watches me in the audience.

He comes backstage.

He tells me what a great job I did and how much he loves the joke.

Two years later he’s doing that as his last joke on the Kings of Comedy

And he’s doing it verbatim.

He’s just changed my car into a spaceship.

Okay, before we talk about any of the behaviors, let’s talk about what this joke is.

Just so everyone’s on the same page.

So in 1998, on Bet’s Comic View, cat did a joke where he was talking about being in his car and he sat back on stage in his chair and he started doing the mannerisms to some music, with the arm up like this, sitting back, bouncing along to the music.

Then, in the year 2000, Cedric, the Entertainer, was doing a bit about space shuttles and he talked about how he would sit in a space shuttle to drive it.

And he did almost the exact same mannerisms, brought a chair, sat on it, Lean Back, arm up, bouncing around to the music.

Now I don’t to spend too much time talking about the ethics of performance and stealing material, but in cases where it’s reasonable that two people would have thought of the same thing.

It’s not considered theft, but if what he’s saying here is true, that he was doing it, that Cedric came to his show, saw him, complimented him on that bit, and now all of a sudden, he’s doing it on TV, that’s a completely different thing.

So with that said, let’s look at his behaviors.

When he’s telling that story on the channel, we constantly say that there’s no way to look at behavior and know if someone is being deceptive for sure.

We have to see clusters of behavior- deceptive behaviors that happen at the same time, and when we see those clusters it raises the probability of deception but never certainty.

If we look at Kat in this moment- and we look really hard for clusters, several behaviors, that would indicate that something’s going on here.

Here’s what we see.

We see some face touching and mouth blocking.

So his hand comes up like this and touches his face, and that’s pretty much it there.

There is pretty much nothing else going on in that segment.

That makes me go.

I’ve got to ask some questions here.

Something’s not adding up, and this is such a great example as to why we need clusters, because sometimes a face touch is just a face touch, not to mention throughout this interview, he’s touching his face on numerous occasions.

If I saw a bunch of other stuff happening in this moment that weren’t happening before, like if he started retreating into himself, if he started, you know, blinking a little more or eye blocking, he started hesitating a lot more, searching for his words, I would say: okay, maybe something’s going on, but we have someone here who’s very confidently telling a story.

If you look at his gestures, the illustrators and the facial expressions line up exactly with what he’s saying, which is usually a good indication that there’s one thought coming out and his gestures and His words are expressing that thought.

This doesn’t seem speculative.

It seems pretty factual in his head, because if he was going to make this up, he would say Cedric must have seen you.

Keep it vague that way, you don’t know where he saw you, but he’s saying where he came and saw him.

That’s, that’s a little bit more detail.

If that didn’t happen, it would be easier for Cedric to deny that.

Another thing I want to mention is he credits Mark cury for helping him write the joke, and I showed it here in the clips.

But he goes on to say how hard Mark helped him with this, which is really great that he credits someone who helped him write this joke.

He’s giving us the history of the joke, and when he says that it’s my closing joke, we see a hand to chest.

We even hear it on the mic as he hits his necklace.

Andh, the chest is a very researched gesture and the researchers found that when we see someone with their hand to their chest, we tend to perceive that as honest.

But not only that, but we tend to speak more truthfully when we do put our hand to our chest.

In other words, there’s a big connection between this gesture and honesty.

Now there are no absolutes.

It doesn’t mean every single time we see someone with their hand to their chest, they must be telling the truth.

But there is a correlation between the two.

So when I saw this, I was rather convinced by his passion, his emotion, the fact that nothing seemed to trigger too many red flags for me.

But then I saw a denial from Cedric the Entertainer.

Now this wasn’t recent.

It turns out that cat has publicly accused Cedric of stealing the spit before, and two years ago Cedric made a video denying it.

I want you to look at that video and pay very close attention to what Cedric the Entertainer is saying: what up y’all, what’s up said?

I’m address this Cat Williams thing one time.

Man, I have no idea what this brother is talking about.

That joke is over 30 years old, close to 30, something years old.

I did the kings of comedy in 1999, probably had been doing that joke six, seven years before that.

I don’t even know if cat was doing comedy then.

So you know again, he talented brother.

I have no idea what he talking about.

I’ve never seen cat do a a space show joke.

So uh, you know, that may be something that he believes is true.

I I’ve written a lot of jokes.

I’ve had a lot of comedians steal my jokes as well.

So I understand if you feel you know slighted by that, but that’s my joke.

That’s my joke.

Dog grabing spaceship to the Moon, cigarette, cutie pie rocking in the background, parallel parking the spaceship.

It’s my joke, though.

So that’s that’s what I believe it to be.

So all right, that’s all I can say about that.

Man.

Okay, So I love this.

We have a straightup accusation and a straight up denial, and both these things can’t be true.

So if you want to play along, pause the video, head down to the comments and let me know what do you believe?

Which of these two do you believe and why?

Okay, I’m about to make, I think, one of the most confident statements as to whether someone is being truthful or deceptive in the history of the channel.

Because usually I’m very cautious because I know that behavior can never tell us with certainty if someone’s being deceptive.

I usually say: okay, here’s what this indicates.

But I can’t be certain.

But for me personally in this case, I firmly believe that Cedric, the Entertainer, is being deceptive and it has a little bit to do with behavior.

But there’s one thing about that video that when I talked about with my Entertainer friends, they were like: yeah, no, that’s pretty undeniable.

Let’s talk about what these reasons are.

First and foremost, notice the emphasis he puts on space shuttles.

At the end he says: that’s my joke.

You know, driving the space shuttle, parking the space shuttle, and towards the beginning he goes: I’ve never seen cat do a space shuttle joke.

That’s because cat never did a space shuttle joke.

Cat did a car joke with those exact same mannerisms.

So as long as Cedric can say no, no, no, that’s my space shuttle joke.

Cat’s never done a space shuttle joke, well, he’s being truthful.

It’s not a space shuttle joke.

Then there’s a really interesting choice of words.

He says I’ve had a lot of comedians steal my jokes as well.

I’ve had a lot of comedians steal my jokes as well and as well is a really interesting choice, because if you say as well, it means it’s happening there and it’s happening here as well.

It’s happening here too also.

Now I will play Devil’s Advocate a little bit here, because he says I’ve written a lot of jokes.

I’ve had a lot of comedians steal my jokes as well.

So it could just be an unfortunate sentence structure where he means as well like in addition to having written a lot of jokes right.

So if I go like I went to the grocery store today, I went to the movies as well.

So it’s like this and also that.

However, in the way that it’s said, it really sounds like he’s saying you had jokes stolen and I’ve had jokes stolen as well.

There’s also this slight possibility that he means like I get how you feel.

You feel I stole your joke

And I know how that feels.

Cuz that’s happened to me as well.

But let’s just put this whole thing in a maybe pile because it’s a really unfortunate choice of words.

But if we stay completely objective and try to not jump to conclusions.

It can have these other meanings.

That would be a possible defense as to why he said as well, without 100% certainty, that he’s lying.

But the third thing I noticed here, I believe, is by far the most compelling, and I haven’t seen anyone else talk about it.

I it’s possible that somebody has a performer would notice this, but I haven’t seen anyone talk about it.

Now let me see if I can get you guys there without me saying it to you.

Imagine you’re a performer, a season performer, and you have this bit that you’ve worked on for years.

It’s your closer.

You worked on it really really hard and it’s very unique.

Then this younger performer goes on TV and does that bit, does your bit almost the exact same way.

Not only that.

Years later this kid goes on TV or on platforms and starts saying that you stole that bit from him.

You film a video.

What do you say in that video?

What’s the number one thing that you’re thinking in your head?

I can promise you that almost any performer out there would very firmly think that this younger comedian stole that bit from them.

If this happened to me, I promise you I’d make a video and I’d go.

Not only did I not see you do that, you stole that bit from me and now you have the audacity to come out and say that I stole it from you.

I was doing that bit 7 years ago.

I did it at this venue.

That venue talked to this Booker, talk to that comedian.

They all saw me do this.

Cedric is never denying at any point that the bit looks exactly the same.

Now, if cat is lying about Cedric having gone to see him and complimented him on that bit.

If that’s a lie, why isn’t Cedric convinced that cat stole the bit from him?

If he’s been doing it for that long- and he knows it’s Unique and he knows it’s the same- the only logical conclusion is that cat must have stolen it from him, but at no point is he going on the offense.

He’s only playing defense here.

And at the end he even says: that’s what I believe it to be.

There is no.

What you believe it to be.

There’s what happened.

There’s what is.

What do you mean believe it to be?

If you know for a fact that you wrote that bit and you were doing it years before him, then you should have receipts.

Someone who saw you do it somewhere.

Who could testify that you use those exact mannerisms in that joke?

So let me tell you, not as a Behavioral Analyst but as a performer, let me tell you exactly what I think happened.

I think Cedric did in fact have a joke about space shuttles.

I think I think he went to see cat perform.

He saw that sequence with the car like this and he said, oh, that would work really well in my space shuttle joke.

So he took that component of it and worked it into an existing space shuttle joke.

So now he can confidently deny never having seen cat do a space shuttle joke, cuz he didn’t.

He could say that the space shuttle joke was his idea because it was.

But he’s never actually denying taking those mannerisms from the car joke and fitting them into a space shuttle joke.

And, more importantly, at no point is he accusing cat of having stolen that sequence from him.

Okay, now we’re going to move on and look at some stuff he said about the other celebrities and a couple of other statements he made.

That got quite a bit of attention.

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Are These Things True?

I’m almost 100 years old right now.

But if we go outside right now, I can run a 4340 or or sub I can do a 416.

If there Jimmy John across the street, we can order a sub.

But um oh, you’ve been on the submarine.

That what you sub.

So um, I’m reading in multiple languages.

Like I’m, I’m probably reading 3,000 books a year from the time that I’m 8 years old to the time that I’m 12.

Okay.

So those statements, and a few more like them, got a lot of attention on social media, because here he is claiming that he can run 40 yards in 4.3 seconds or less, and then he goes off to say that he read 3,000 books a year between the ages of 8 and 12.

So a lot of people are asking: is this truthful?

Is he telling the truth?

Let me start off by saying that these little facts, these little fun facts that people throw out like this, are the ones where it’s the hardest to use Behavior to determine the probability of deception, because it’s almost like a white lie.

There’s no real stress about it, there’s.

No, we’re not asking questions, they’re not elaborating to where we have a chance to see a lot of different things.

It’s just these little things that are thrown out on top of that.

If the person has convinced themselves of these things, then technically it’s not going to present as a lie if they believe it.

That said, Cat Williams does have a habit of speaking with hyperbole.

He exaggerates things and he thinks highly of himself, and he’s often saying things that are very grandiose.

I don’t think we need to look at these little statements that he’s throwing out there with the same amount of weight and seriousness as these other heavy accusations that he’s putting forward.

In this case, he’s just saying these little things in.

In fact, he starts the sentence by saying I’m almost 100 years old right now.

Nobody’s looking at that and going wait a second.

Is that truthful?

Is he actually 100 years old?

No, it’s exaggerated, it’s Hyperbole, and it’s the same with the books he says.

I read probably 3,000 books a year between the ages of 8 and 12.

Probably this isn’t a statement of fact.

This isn’t a scientific number.

He’s saying.

Probably.

In fact.

Look at his body language, as he’s saying between the time that I’m 8 years old and the time that I’m 12.

Just before he says 12, we see a mouth shrug as his lips go up like this as he looks off into the distance with a little bit of a head shake like this to the time that I’m 12- and this is something we often do-

It’s inable of saying: I don’t know so like between the ages of eight

And I don’t know 12, that’s exactly what that is.

So even him in his head

It’s unclear.

He’s estimating it’s more or less a range

And yes, it’s a range.

That’s very much in his favor.

The 40R Dash, on the other hand, is a little different because it’s not a range.

It doesn’t seem like he’s trying to estimate or trying to remember.

He’s throwing out specific numbers.

He says a 4340 or even sub a 416.

These are specific numbers.

So I’m led to believe that maybe it’s possible that at some point he actually was able to hit one of those numbers.

I’m not really certain, but that seems a little more confident and specific than the books.

However, look at the way Shannon takes it when he says it can, even it could even be sub.

It could be 4.16.

Shannon goes: oh sub, there’s a Jimmy John’s across the street.

You want to grab a sub or, oh, you want a submarine.

So even Shannon is kind of not taking this part very seriously and he’s kind of joking with it.

Now there is a clip online of what seems to be him running the 40 yard dash, but I don’t know how legitimate it is.

A lot of channels are treating it like it’s legit, but I’m not seeing context.

I’m not seeing anything.

I’m just seeing a blur of a man running and-

And that’s meant to be evidence that he can do it.

So I’ll leave a link in the description to that.

If you want to go, check it out and see if you feel it’s legit, if it is super impressive.

But for me the bottom line is: do I think that as a statement of fact, he read 3,000 books a year from the age of 8 to 12?

I don’t.

That’s a lot of books.

That’s 8 to nine books a day.

That’s a lot.

But I think he read a lot of books in those ages.

I just think he’s being really generous towards himself in a moment where it shouldn’t be taken that seriously.

Did Steve Harvey Steal This Joke?

The same Steve that went to go watch Mark Curry, do his whole sitcom and then stole everything Mark Curry had.

I didn’t want to be a movie star.

No, you couldn’t be a movie star.

There are 30,000 new scripts in Hollywood every year.

Not one of them.

Ask for a country bumping black dude that can’t talk good over and look like Mr Potato Head.

There ain’t none.

You would have to have a range, I don’t know.

I don’t know.

C. we might not let you drink anymore the way you, you, I mean we ain’t even got.

I’m not.

Fuel B.

I’ve had a sip.

These are like this: is like Steve Harvey telling people he used to be homeless.

That’s my story.

That’s not his story.

Steve Harvey was never homeless.

When he, Mark Curry, was touring with him 25 years ago, he was making $3,000 a show in cash.

Okay, now we’re on the subject of Steve Harvey, and one of the things you’ll notice is that those pacifiers are starting to increase.

So we set left hand, now rubbing the left knee a little bit more frequently as the interview progresses, it’s going to get a lot more, with both both hands very consistently.

We also notice that Shannon is noticing that this is getting a little negative.

He even says we’re going to maybe have to get you to stop drinking.

And for a second, let’s think about Shannon’s position here as a host right.

On the one hand, he wants this information.

He wants the drama, because this is going to do good for his numbers, but on the other hand, he has to be careful not for his show to be too insulting to some of these people, because I’m sure he wants to have these people back on the show.

Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart, Shannon himself, doesn’t want to make enemies in the industry just because cat came on his show and started criticizing a whole lot of people.

So he’s in a very tough spot.

We’re going to see that throughout the interview on numerous occasions.

What do you expect?

The guy married a like what.

Oh Lord, I didn’t mean it like that, I mean married her because she was one now he didn’t know.

He courted that.

That’s what he wanted to base his.

She got a good heart, though.

I know what you going to say, don’t you say it, cat now?

That said once again, cat had that same fire, that same passion when he was accusing Steve Harvey here.

He didn’t have to overthink about how he’s delivering this.

He was very certain about the facts, and the illustrators are on point.

The facial expressions were on point and once again, besides that pacifier which we already talked about, it’s part of the Baseline.

They really isn’t much I could point to to say: okay, there’s a cluster there, something’s going on.

So let’s look at what he’s talking about.

What is this joke that Steve Harvey stole from Mark Curry?

Halloween was a trip, Halloween.

We couldn’t afford no Halloween costumes.

Hey, kids please.

Mama sent us down to the liquor store, put boxes on us.

We didn’t know what we were.

I don’t know what we are.

I don’t know.

She didn’t tell her.

I think we Ups.

I guess I don’t know.

You’ve heard me say that every Halloween I had the same outfit on every year.

I just had a brown box.

It wasn’t nothing sad.

Just not.

Asked my father: could I have a new outfit?

And he said, no, just wear the same one, it was just a brown box.

And he just told me to tell everybody I was a Ups man.

Okay, first and foremost, I have to put this out there.

Steve Harvey’s version of that joke doesn’t even make any sense.

He says that he put a box on and his dad said: tell people, you’re the Ups man.

Why would the Ups man be in a box?

The Ups men carries boxes.

In Mark Curry’s version he says, I think we’re Ups.

I guess I don’t know.

Which suggests that him in his box and his siblings in their boxes collectively are a Ups delivery like they are the packages.

That’s hilarious, but in Steve’s version, you know, I just tell them you’re the Ups man.

That makes no sense as a joke anyway.

Sorry about that, it just irritated me a little, but at the very least it indicates who put more thought into this joke, and in interviews Mark Curry said said that this was a true story.

This actually happened when he was younger.

His mom told him to get in a box and that him and his siblings could be Ups.

This was real.

Now it’s possible that Steve’s father had the same idea, but that specific Ups reference, especially because it doesn’t make sense the way Steve delivered it.

For me it was a red flag.

There something’s going on.

So a few days ago, after the interview came out, Steve released a clip on his social media of him talking to the Family Feud crowd, where he’s talking about haters and not addressing haters.

All my haters I got, I ain’t got to say nothing to them.

They got TV.

They can cut their TV on seven days a week.

Oh man, I don’t.

I don’t even worry about.

You know, I’ve learned how to handle haters, man, and only reason you have haters is because you’re effective, and it goes on like that for two minutes.

It’s two minutes of why haters behave, the way they behave and what it means for a hater to be doing this, and how you should completely ignore them and how they’re on his social media.

Like what are you doing there?

I don’t even pay attention to them for 2 minutes.

And there’s an irony to that, because by talking about 2 minutes how you don’t address your haters, you’re addressing your haters, but nowhere in there is there a denial.

You could simply have taken a quarter of the time you took talking about haters to say: here’s the accusation that’s been put in front of me, here’s why it’s false, but that never happens.

He completely Dodges the subject.

So my thought is this: he’s right, you don’t have to address haters, you don’t have to address people’s opinions of you, but you do have to address serious accusations, especially when it’s something that’s so important in the comedy World, especially for someone who preaches honesty, who preaches living a life of virtue.

It’s very strange that he’s being accused of deception, he’s being accused of stealing something, and that the only way he addresses it is to say: I don’t have to address the haters.

I think this is something that you might have to address.

So yeah, when it comes to stealing the joke I think I would have if it was just about Halloween and putting on a box, I would have been okay with it.

But something about that Ups statement and the fact that he’s just never denying this or anyone denying it for him to me it just feels a little odd.

That said, I think cat committed a Faa when he made it personal, so he went beyond.

You know he steals Jokes, which is fine.

If that’s what’s happening, you talk about that, you expose that, and then he’s talking about the fact that he thinks Steve lack’s Talent.

That’s okay too.

But when he’s saying, when he’s making personal about his physicality, I think he’s crossing a line and he’s giving Steve the right to say: I don’t have to address haters, because now this is hate.

He talked about my physicality.

That’s hate, and he kind of allows him to switch the topic and kind of misdirect and talk about the hate as opposed to the accusation.

There is another thing in what cat said about Steve that I think he is just expressing opinion and he doesn’t know for a fact when he says that Steve was never homeless.

That’s my story and he

And he took that story.

So a couple of things.

First, two people can be homeless.

You know, just cuz cat was homeless.

That’s not a counter to Steve being homeless.

It’s possible that this happened to two different people.

The other thing is, he says, 25 years ago Steve was touring and making $3,000 a night, but 25 years ago Steve was in his young 40s.

That’s not the period of time where he claims that he used to live in his car.

So I have experience here.

When I performed at the Apollo, Steve Harvey at the beginning of the evening got on stage and told the audience his story and he told them how the Apollo means a lot to him, because in his youth he was living out of his car and he drove to New York City because he booked a gig at the Apollo, and that’s when things started to turn around for him.

He certainly wasn’t talking about the time where he was in his 40s.

But the bottom line is this segment where cat is talking about Steve never having been homeless.

I find a little little less compelling than the other stuff where he brought receipts.

Cedric came to see me.

Steve and Mark worked together.

We have evidence of these clips being super similar, whereas in this case it seems a little more speculative.

Katt vs Kevin Hart

If someone were to come out with receipts and say no, no, no, here’s where Steve was living in those years, that’ll be very compelling, but this seems a little bit more theoretic.

In 15 years in Hollywood.

No one in Hollywood has a memory of going to a sold out Kevin Hart show, there being a line for him ever getting a standing ovation at any Comedy Club.

He already had his deals when he got here.

Have we heard of a comedian that came to La and in his first year in La he had his own sitcom on network television and had his own movie called Soul Plane that he was leading.

No, we’ve never heard of that before that person or since that person.

What do you think?

A plant is okay?

So there he is talking about Kevin Hart, and this one’s a little bit different,

Because he’s not accusing him of stealing material, he’s just saying that the guy came out of nowhere.

He didn’t pay his dues, he didn’t sell out venues, he didn’t have lineups or standing ovations.

He appeared out of nowhere in Hollywood and he’s getting all these big roles.

This one to me felt a little more personal.

It felt because there isn’t an accusation there of something concrete of like you stole this.

It’s more like: where did this guy come from and why is he so famous?

So, as I kept listening, at some point we get a clue as to what’s going on.

For a 5year period, every single movie that Kevin Hart did was a movie that had been on my desk that all I had said was: just can we take some of this step and fetchet out, and then I can do it like it.

Don’t need to be overtly homosexual, cuz I’m not homosexual, right.

It doesn’t need that to be funny, right.

And and me saying that and them going,

Oh yeah, no problem, and then going to give it to this other guy and having him do it just like it was so that kind of answered my questions.

There’s a little bit of rivalry there to where a lot of the roles that were offered to him- him that he tried to change or said- you know, I don’t feel that I need to do it this way for it to be funny- went to Kevin Hart, who said, yeah,

I’ll do it, I’ll do it that way, no problem took those opportunities, and so Kevin ended up being in movies that cat had been considered for now, before we elaborate on the validity of what he’s saying about Kevin Hart and what is going on between the two of them.

Let’s look at Kevin Hart’s responses.

So Kevin is on a show called Nba unplugged, where a basketball game is going on and him and his buddies are just commenting.

And they brought this up after the interview.

They said some stuff about it.

Here it is:

Yeah,

Yeah, good luck, Good Luck.

Get me to talk about that.

Hor, I got two words for the world.

Fact.

Check it.

That’s what I say.

Fat, check everything, Andre9.

He figured out how to play basketball from reading all them books.

3,000 of them, 3,000 a year a year.

That’s two a day.

At 6 years old, that’s two a day.

Who knew he was so vitious at the age 7 he got accepted to.

I think it was Delaware University.

Yeah,

Oh yeah, never made public news.

No, ever the biggest secret, the biggest secret in the world.

Hey, smartest kid to ever do it.

They kept it a secret.

So he starts off by saying: good luck, getting me to talk about that.

Like, I’m not going to address this at all, but then he does address it numerous times.

But does he address the accusations against him?

Does he address the accusations against other people?

No, he addresses the things that were, those exaggerations that cat threw out there, those things that are really hard to believe, those things that none of us would really believe, that anybody read 3,000 books a year between the ages of 8 and 12.

He picks apart The credibility of the source instead of addressing the direct accusations against him, and this is a classic technique and it’s one of the reasons, I think that if cat was going to be here and speak the truth, like he said in the beginning- you know he said to Shannon, you’ve created space here where people come and could speak truth-

I feel like he should have been a little more careful with those exaggerations, because it’s very easy for someone, for one of his critics, to look at the audience and go.

Do you really think that this guy read 3,000 books a year?

Do you really think that some of these claims he’s making, that are really hard to believe?

Do you think that these are really things that happened?

And now the person listening goes:

Oh yeah, I guess, I guess that may not be true, and now everything starts to fall apart.

So the things were- he is being truthful, start to lose a little bit of weight, but in this case it seems a little overt that Kevin art is going.

I’m not going to address that, but I am.

But I’m not going to address the things about me, just the things that can put into question cat’s credibility, and therefore it seems to add up that what cat is saying might have some truth to it, because cat was part of the comedy circuit.

If Kevin was crushing audiences out there, cat would have known that.

So the point he’s making is, none of us knew him in the industry- all of all of a sudden- bam, here he is, and Kevin isn’t really denying that.

However, I’m going to give an opinion here.

This isn’t objective analysis.

This is me giving my opinion, and you may or may not agree, and I look forward to discussing it in the comments with you.

But as opposed to the accusations on Cedric and Steve, which is, you stole material, and that’s unacceptable to me, it seems like this accusation on Kevin Hart is a little unnecessary, because what is the real message?

It’s that Kevin didn’t pay his dues, Kevin didn’t sellout stadiums and he’s an industry plant.

Now, if we have an industry plant in government or in the military, that’s one thing.

But in the world of comedy, in the world of Hollywood, what does that mean?

All that means is that someone with money saw Kevin Hart and decided to roll the dice on him, and it paid off because he may not have had soldout stadiums then.

But he does now and money speaks.

He’s selling out stadiums.

Now I have friends who have gone to his shows- standing ovations, full houses.

You may not think he’s as funny as Cat Williams, and maybe Cat Williams is a better stand-up comedian, but it’s working.

The guy is in movies grossing hundreds of millions of dollars.

He might be an industry plant, but people are paying a lot of money to go see his movies and his shows.

Believe me, the moment that stops, Hollywood will spit him out the same way.

They brought him up from nothing.

So if the criticism is that Kevin is claiming that he was this big comic who paid his dues and sold out stadiums- and that’s how he came to Hollywood- I could see how that would be irritating to cat and he could say that’s not true.

But to say that you know he came up out of nowhere and all of a sudden he’s doing all these movies and no one had ever heard about him.

To me it there’s a part of me going okay.

So in every branch of entertainment there are people out there who are grinding, who are very talented and don’t always get the recognition they deserve, and there are people who make the right connection, meet the right person and Rise really quickly and what they’re doing to get there.

That’s their business, as long as it’s not illegal.

That’s their business because-

Kat said it himself, he wasn’t willing to do the roles the way they were written.

He wanted to have discussions, whereas Kevin was going:

Yeah, no,

I I’ll do it the way it’s written.

So maybe it simply comes down to that he was easier to work with.

So again, we could disagree on this.

But for me, after watching this interview, there was a part of me going: shame on you, Cedric, shame on you, Steve, but there’s nothing for me to look at Kevin and go, shame on you.

It just seems to me like, yeah, he took a shortcut,

So okay.

Conclusion: Was Katt Lying?

So now all is said and done.

This interview comes out.

There’s a couple of responses here and there from some of the people he talked about, but how do we know overall, if what he said was mostly true or not?

Well, I think there’s one thing that’s really really telling, and here it is at the time that I’m filming this video.

It was released 6 days ago.

It is now at 40 million views.

In that time, obviously, people watched it and went and did their research to see.

Okay, What’s what’s true, what’s not true?

Other celebrities came out and talked about it.

The internet is flooded with reactions to this video and Within These reactions we could find a lot of evidence for a lot of the things that he said.

We find that comparison between him and Cedric.

We find that comparison between Mark Curry and Steve Harvey.

We find a lot of receipts that confirm a lot of the things he’s saying.

But from my search-

And I searched for quite some time- I haven’t seen a single person provide a shred of evidence to counter any of what he said.

And that’s huge, because we’re talking about a lot of people here that have a lot of power and influence and that a lot of people of power and influence don’t want to see them go down.

So even if it’s not the artists themselves addressing it, someone out there, something would have put emotion in place to try to discredit some of what he’s saying.

As a matter of fact-

And I’ve seen none of it- we’ve seen some mockery about the exaggerated claims that he made.

The books he can read how fast he can run, but outside of that, when it comes down to the serious accusations, nothing, not one concrete denial, and that’s huge.

We’re living in the age of information.

Where’s that one person who went to a Cedric the inter Entertainer show before 1998 and saw him do that space shuttle joke and can now just get on Instagram and be like: no, no, I saw him do it back then.

Where is anyone denying any of these things that could all be denied if they weren’t true?

So the fact that, and even if a few come out over the next couple of weeks because they might, it’s just crazy how, in the first six days, there’s tons of evidence coming out to support what he’s saying but nothing to deny it.

So, after all, is said and done.

What do I think we have here?

I think we have some.

Someone who, when it comes to his industry, the love he has for standup comedy, the respect he has for the grind he put in and others like him have put in, I think, when it comes to that, he really values honesty and he values doing everything Fair.

Write your own jokes, do your own material, get famous the right way.

I feel like there are some frustrations related to the fact that he feels like the grind he put in, the talent he has should result in him being a bigger star than some other people who aren’t as as talented, I see, have frustration there, and it’s something that I recognize even in my own industry, amongst magicians and mentalists.

The names that you know, the big names that do really really well out there, are not always the ones who are necessarily the most talented.

They’re the ones who were packaged right, made the right connections and Rose to the top, and then you have some very talented, very creative individuals who are putting in that grind and who are getting those standing ovations, but they’re not quite getting to those levels, and very often they complain about the more mainstream ones as being talentless, coming out of nowhere.

I don’t think that there is a whole lot of deception in what he’s saying.

I think there are Parts where he kind of takes his opinions and presents them a little bit more as fact or adds to the narrative.

I think there are things that he exaggerates a little bit, especially when it comes to himself, and this just might be because he feels like his ego is a little down.

So this might be a way to kind of bring himself up a little, and I do believe there are a few places where he crosses the line just a little bit and makes it a little a little personal.

But we might disagree with that, because that’s a line everybody draws at a different point.

For me personally, I’m always okay with someone questioning or analyzing someone’s ethical choices, but I’m not okay with someone criticizing something we were born with, something that we can’t change.

But that’s just me.

That said, I don’t really know what I’m going to do with this topic moving forward.

I know that a lot of you wanted the analysis of this interview.

I know that there was a lot more to this interview, but I felt like I wanted to talk about the things where I had pretty high conf confidence in what I was seeing, especially with those responses.

These were the things that I felt had a lot of context and enough for me to look at.

There’s a lot of other stuff, I’m sure, in the interview that you guys want to talk about specifically.

Maybe there’s going to be more stuff that comes out, more responses, more elaborations, more interviews, and I’m open to keep talking about that.

But when it comes to this interview, I feel like the main points were talked about today, but let me know in the comments.

Is there something specific you guys want to talk about?

Um, do we want to do a live stream about this?

I don’t really know.

I’m not closed to doing more on this, but I think I’m happy with the stuff we talked about in this video.

Let me know in the comments what you thought and I will see you on the next one.